Full Refund vs Credit to Travel Bank amid COVID crisis
#451
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I applied for the refund last November. I have still not received any correspondence as to the status of my refund. I have sent numerous messages through Facebook and I get the standard response which is completely useless.
Can anyone tell me how long the process should take ? Should I have received a confirmation email right after the refund application ? Is there a special phone number or contact person who might be able to answer my questions ? Thanks
Can anyone tell me how long the process should take ? Should I have received a confirmation email right after the refund application ? Is there a special phone number or contact person who might be able to answer my questions ? Thanks
While WS has done flashy press releases promoting their refund program as "industry leading, WS's refund process seems like smoke and mirrors with no set timelines, no criteria for refunds, and their phone agents aren't able to discuss refunds.
#453
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I couldn't agree more! In fact, after being denied my refund, I may have written an e-mail to a senior WS executive titled "Why is WestJet misleading the public about refunds?" wherein I expressed that same view and my disappointment with their stance
#454
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 30
May I ask what reason was given for the denial ?
#455
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 368
Reasons for denial are simple: WS found alternative flights to your destination either through WS or DL. I think someone upthread or I read somewhere else had them go from WS direct LGA to YYZ to all DL-metal on LGA-ATL-JFK-YYZ.... and was classified as not eligible for refund.
I think DL codeshares do not extend to the Caribbean or Mexico making refunds more likely
I think DL codeshares do not extend to the Caribbean or Mexico making refunds more likely
#457
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 88
I managed to obtain a full credit card refund from WestJet for a April 2020 roundtrip itinerary after months of back-and-forth email correspondence, with the Canadian Transportation Agency acting as the mediator. Is there a suitable thread to post up my experience as a data point?
#458
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I managed to obtain a full credit card refund from WestJet for a April 2020 roundtrip itinerary after months of back-and-forth email correspondence, with the Canadian Transportation Agency acting as the mediator. Is there a suitable thread to post up my experience as a data point?
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#459
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I managed to obtain a full credit card refund from WestJet for a April 2020 roundtrip itinerary after months of back-and-forth email correspondence, with the Canadian Transportation Agency acting as the mediator. Is there a suitable thread to post up my experience as a data point?
#460
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 88
Hopefully this will help some of the folks here with ongoing disputes in obtaining their refund!
I booked a roundtrip flight from British Columbia to California, set to travel entirely within April 2020. On the basis of availability, the outbound sector of the ticket was Premium Fare, and the inbound sector was PremiumFlex Fare, fully on WS metal.
Initial outcome after COVID struck: 28 Mar 2020, the ticket amount was fully credited into Travel Bank. No alternative flight or rebooking offered.
2nd follow-up outcome (no escalation required): 22 Apr 2020, the PremiumFlex portion of the ticket was fully refunded into my original form of payment, while the Premium portion stayed as a credit in Travel Bank.
At this point in time, I started escalating my case to the customer service hotline asking for the remainder of the ticket to be refunded to my original form of payment but to no avail. I submitted a dispute with the Canadian Transportation Agency on 07 May 2020 outlining the facts of my complaint against WestJet.
The Canadian Transportation Agency finally initiated contact with WestJet ([email protected]) in December 2020 and instructed them to provide me with a reply by January 2021. Funny enough, Westjet didn't act upon this request until March 2021.
The contact person from WestJet went by the name of Jane, with her job title being Regulatory Guest Relations | Advisor. This was her initial response (dollar amounts omitted), with the CTA ([email protected]) on carbon copy:
I responded to that email by rattling off the list of airport charges and fees:
CAD 12.10 CA4 (AIR TRAVELLERS SECURITY
CHARGE)
CAD 63.55 XG8 (GOODS AND SERVICES TAX
(GST ))
CAD 25.00 SQ (AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT FEE
(AIF))
CAD 1.25 XG9 (GOODS AND SERVICES TAX
(GST ))
CAD 4 9.36 US2 (TRANSPORTATION TAX
(INTERNATIONAL))
CAD 7.69 YC (CUSTOMS USER FEE)
CAD 9.14 XY2 (IMMIGRATION USER FEE)
CAD 5.17 XA (APHIS USER FEE)
CAD 7.31 AY (SEPTEMBER 11TH SECURITY FEE)
CAD 5.88 XF (PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE)
Given that these additional fees made up a proportion of the remainder of the airfare that was NOT yet refunded back to me, I questioned Westjet whether it was actually appropriate to pocket these amounts. No alternative flight was offered or scheduled for this particular transaction, therefore for all intents and purposes, this flight has not and will not ever occur in the entire history of humankind. I questioned WestJet in holding my remainder airfare as hostage, whether it was appropriate to pretend that this flight had indeed occurred.
Finally, another WestJet representative responded on the email chain, going by the name of Gail, with the same job title as Jane:
Got the outcome that I wanted, albeit Westet dragged it all the way until 07 April 2021 with their pettiness.
I booked a roundtrip flight from British Columbia to California, set to travel entirely within April 2020. On the basis of availability, the outbound sector of the ticket was Premium Fare, and the inbound sector was PremiumFlex Fare, fully on WS metal.
Initial outcome after COVID struck: 28 Mar 2020, the ticket amount was fully credited into Travel Bank. No alternative flight or rebooking offered.
2nd follow-up outcome (no escalation required): 22 Apr 2020, the PremiumFlex portion of the ticket was fully refunded into my original form of payment, while the Premium portion stayed as a credit in Travel Bank.
At this point in time, I started escalating my case to the customer service hotline asking for the remainder of the ticket to be refunded to my original form of payment but to no avail. I submitted a dispute with the Canadian Transportation Agency on 07 May 2020 outlining the facts of my complaint against WestJet.
The Canadian Transportation Agency finally initiated contact with WestJet ([email protected]) in December 2020 and instructed them to provide me with a reply by January 2021. Funny enough, Westjet didn't act upon this request until March 2021.
The contact person from WestJet went by the name of Jane, with her job title being Regulatory Guest Relations | Advisor. This was her initial response (dollar amounts omitted), with the CTA ([email protected]) on carbon copy:
As only the return portion of your flight was refundable, some of the credit card charge of $$$ paid for the outbound which was not refundable. When you called into the contact centre on May 7, 2020 they calculated the cost of the outbound (non-refundable) and determined the cost of the return flight. The cost of the round trip was $$$ less the outbound flight of $$$ is $$$. The return flights fare is $$$ (including tax). The difference eligible for refund is the difference of $$$, which is what was refunded.
WestJet considers your complaint to be resolved and no further action is required by us at this time.
WestJet considers your complaint to be resolved and no further action is required by us at this time.
CAD 12.10 CA4 (AIR TRAVELLERS SECURITY
CHARGE)
CAD 63.55 XG8 (GOODS AND SERVICES TAX
(GST ))
CAD 25.00 SQ (AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT FEE
(AIF))
CAD 1.25 XG9 (GOODS AND SERVICES TAX
(GST ))
CAD 4 9.36 US2 (TRANSPORTATION TAX
(INTERNATIONAL))
CAD 7.69 YC (CUSTOMS USER FEE)
CAD 9.14 XY2 (IMMIGRATION USER FEE)
CAD 5.17 XA (APHIS USER FEE)
CAD 7.31 AY (SEPTEMBER 11TH SECURITY FEE)
CAD 5.88 XF (PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE)
Given that these additional fees made up a proportion of the remainder of the airfare that was NOT yet refunded back to me, I questioned Westjet whether it was actually appropriate to pocket these amounts. No alternative flight was offered or scheduled for this particular transaction, therefore for all intents and purposes, this flight has not and will not ever occur in the entire history of humankind. I questioned WestJet in holding my remainder airfare as hostage, whether it was appropriate to pretend that this flight had indeed occurred.
Finally, another WestJet representative responded on the email chain, going by the name of Gail, with the same job title as Jane:
We have had an opportunity to review your booking and would now like to confirm that the remaining amount of $$$ has been refunded to the credit card used to make the reservation. Please allow three to five business days for this to be restored to your account.
Please accept our apologies for the delay in processing this refund. We trust, however, that this issue has now been resolved and look forward to another opportunity to welcome you on board a WestJet flight.
Please accept our apologies for the delay in processing this refund. We trust, however, that this issue has now been resolved and look forward to another opportunity to welcome you on board a WestJet flight.
Last edited by wkc; Jul 7, 2021 at 6:32 am
#461
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: YQM
Programs: Aeroplan/Altitude 50K
Posts: 16
I don't know if this was discussed earlier in this forum but...anyone knows a way to get a refund from Swoop? I have a travel credit with them and It will expire in March 2022 ...However.. there is no flights available with them in the Atlantic region to anywhere and I don't intend to travel with them.
Thanks for your reply/Help
Thanks for your reply/Help
#462
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YYZ-YYC
Programs: AC50K, OZ*G
Posts: 286
Still waiting for a refund for a flight they delayed/moved 24 hours.
Flight to Paris is no longer useful. My TA, requested it twice, and I have yet to see anything come across... can't they even respect their own tariffs??
Flight to Paris is no longer useful. My TA, requested it twice, and I have yet to see anything come across... can't they even respect their own tariffs??
#463
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 30
Filled in an online complaint form to Canadian Transportation Agency last week complaining about the Westjet refund not coming through yet. Received an email last night showing the Agency emailing Westjet on Tuesday then Westjet replying to them and myself last night saying they will refund the full amount immediately to Mastercard. Never thought Government would work so fast. 😀
#464
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YYZ-YYC
Programs: AC50K, OZ*G
Posts: 286
Filled in an online complaint form to Canadian Transportation Agency last week complaining about the Westjet refund not coming through yet. Received an email last night showing the Agency emailing Westjet on Tuesday then Westjet replying to them and myself last night saying they will refund the full amount immediately to Mastercard. Never thought Government would work so fast. 😀
#465
Join Date: Sep 2010
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< Dumb question alert > ... and I might have posted to the wrong thread, too.
A friend got the "Important changes to your upcoming WestJet flight" alert from Westjet.
"Unfortunately, due to adjustments to our flight schedule, we’ve had to change or cancel one or more of your WestJet flights. Our systems have automatically selected the closest available flight options and you’ll find a proposed new itinerary below."
The choices are: go with the new proposed itinerary, or click Cancel, or phone in.
But what happens if my friend takes no action?
A friend got the "Important changes to your upcoming WestJet flight" alert from Westjet.
"Unfortunately, due to adjustments to our flight schedule, we’ve had to change or cancel one or more of your WestJet flights. Our systems have automatically selected the closest available flight options and you’ll find a proposed new itinerary below."
The choices are: go with the new proposed itinerary, or click Cancel, or phone in.
But what happens if my friend takes no action?